r3 - 11 Jan 2006 - 11:21:47 - ReidEllisYou are here: OSAF >  Journal Web  >  MeetingNotes > SmallMeetingNotes > ZeroPointSixDebrief20060109

0.6 Debrief

Topics

  • Planning
  • Design
  • Development processes
  • Testing
  • Bug fixing, reporting and triage
  • Build/Release
  • Documentation
  • Community
  • General

More Of

  • non code deliverable planning (wiki, website, service, etc.)
  • close on tenets earlier
  • planning efficiency
  • shorter releases
  • preplanning
  • decoupling development and planning
  • planning around architecture goals
  • coordination between cosmo, chandler, scooby, hosting service
  • public code review comments
  • bugzilla for task tracking
  • user testing of design alternatives
  • public design discussions
  • clear discrete questions on design list, with timeline for answering
  • atomic design discussions with specific goals
  • more summaries of design list discussions
  • paper trail of work (more descriptive checkin comments, more discussion in bugzilla, dev list)
  • design discussion about code before it gets written
  • higher quality milestones
  • checkpoint summaries in the last few months
  • access to checkpoint summary from download
  • automated testing (functional tests, unit testing, tinderbox observing)
  • automated testing between components (chandler, cosmo)
  • more perf load testing for chandler
  • more perf testing of whole system
  • more linux dogfooding
  • more irc bug bashes
  • test interoperability sooner
  • talkback feature
  • bugfixing as we go (instead of saving until the end)
  • developer in loop for bug triage
  • punt bugs sooner
  • more clarity on bug council intention w/bug priority (p3/p4)
  • more error logging for tinderbox
  • tinderbox tracking automated tests, functional tests
  • separate commits list for developer documentation
  • schedule time for documentation writing
  • css stylesheet for the documents
  • more landing page-like wiki/website communication
  • summaries of conversations
  • complete notes in meetings
  • demos at staff meetings
  • staff meetings even when mitch is unavailable
  • clear expectations about dependencies (chandler/cosmo)
  • involve everyone in decisions about governance
  • integrated help files

Less Of

  • irc decisions (secret decisions)
  • general design discussion in bugzilla
  • manual testing
  • bundling fixes into a single checkin
  • fewer forks from upstream packages
  • documentation and release overlap
  • cross posting
  • cc'ing people already on the list
  • irc office hours for broadcasting information
  • decisions made in hallway conversations (irc, skype, meetings)
  • staticy polycom conversations in gotham

Same As

  • tenets
  • functional specs
  • screenshots - look like what would be implemented
  • specs in svn
  • linking bugs, tasks to specs
  • bugzilla for task tracking (apps team)
  • philippe's bug and task graphs
  • checkin comments
  • checkpoint/milestone system
  • irc sharing testing
  • bug prioritization
  • bug council
  • fixing/reporting/triage cycle
  • chandler landing page
  • management style - engaged but not micromanaging
  • multiple channels for feedback

Open Questions

  • should we have a changelog? tag checkin comments? require someone to summarize?
  • should we create a mock server for testing?
  • chandler/cosmo field testing (beta) -- at universities?
  • should we podcast meetings?


Feel free to add free form comments here!

-- ReidEllis - 11 Jan 2006
I made a recording of the meeting (low quality - recorded over the phone). I think recording meetings and making them available via podcast would:
* require little to no work, and
* serve as a valuable reference resource
As someone who joins most meetings over the phone, I would appreciate being able to refer to a high-quality (compared with phone) recording.

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