Apps meeting Tuesday August 9th 2005

Agenda

• Specs
• Schedule
• Engineering Issues
• People
• Other

Summary

• Plan : Alec helping John more closely on Sets and Collections. m5 tasks.
• Progress : Lots of people at OSCon last week. Some progress against m5.
• Problems : Sets and Collections a risk, likely making m5 slip.

Actions

• Alec working with John on Sets and Collection
• Philippe to review Alec and John workload for m5

Minutes

Specs

• Trash and Deletion : last spec review Thursday morning 9:45
• 0.7 Planning
  • Sheila, Lisa, Katie and Philippe reviewed the "sticky board"
  • We'll do a similar approach for 0.7 than we had for 0.6 (writing tenets and prioritizing features)
  • Potential big features
    • Better calendar
    • e-mail
    • Dashboard
  • No visibility on the framework / platform issues yet

Schedule

Moving forward on m5. m5 is in 2 weeks from now (8/24).

Not much progress last week because of OSCon and vacation for others.

Everybody seems on track though Jed and John are the most loaded right now.

How's the set, merge hell, etc... going? Outlook for m5? John

• Having quite a bit of issues with merge and collision
• Merging daily into the branch
• Getting help from Morgen and Alec on a topical basic
• The branch does not currently launch! No issue with the repository right now.
• We will delay m5 as long as this thing is not in

Issue

notification will certainly have lingering problems after m5

Who's blocked in the Apps team? Alec (Trash and Deletion)

Who can help? Alec, already working on it since last week. Helping on merging the 5 types of collection. Refactoring code.

Who's contributing to this branch right now? Andi and Ted done except for bugs on code that has not been exercised.

Still issues on the design (5 different types of collection, non mutable). Morgen helping. Alec will also.

Engineering Issues

• PJE work : Purge, Flattening. Comments? No, widely discussed. Everybody cool with this.
• CPIA XML : Now that we don't have parcel XML, we will use a declarative XML for blocks and events. Alec will post something on the Dev list.
• wxWidgets : 2.6.2 delayed about a week. What about auto merges? Could be, David to check into this.

People

Interns : Prepare for Thursday demo/presentation. Dry run Thursday morning.

OSCon Report

Attendance: 2400 people, bigger than last year.

Go check the various blogs and reports (Philippe, Ted, BCM). Please add yours for all to enjoy.

Take away from the Apps team :

• Philippe : Open Source is maturing into a reality with a business model (see SugarCRM). The application space is still largely unoccupy but that's coming. XUL is nice but no silver bullet. Lots of interest in calendaring (CalDAV, iCalendar). Resource scheduling is the killer app.
• Jed : Python can be a mindshift, very eye opening talks on Python.
• Bryan : great talk from the Head First author Kathy Sierra (see her blog).
• John : interesting talks on other things than programming. Not a lot of direct interest to Chandler.

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Status

Philippe

• At OSCon all week:
  • Day 1
  • Day 2
  • Day 3
  • Day 4
  • Day 5

John

• Stuck in SVN merge hell.
• Spent most of the week at OSCON

Jed

• At OSCon all week
• Checked in minical busy bars; awaiting relver bump for python part

David

• on vacation 31 July to 7 August
  • prepared new task list for Arel
  • sent more updated code, status and notes off to Stefan C.
• checked in more wxPython v2.6.2 support
  • near final 2.6.2, due 12 August
  • enabled WebKit for wxMac version of wxHTML
• updated wx project docs
• worked on wx roadmap document

Arel

• Fixed bugs 3734, 3682, 3411, 2953 including mac wxFrame size issue with toolbar when starting up chandler.
• Experimented with keyword-browser for "IdeaBook" prototype

Alec

• Your status here...

Brendan

• Your status here...

Bryan

• Your status here...

Donn

• Struggled with how to best deal with the Type-Over-Text field issues
  • Ended up going with a low impact approach; just keep the old widget around for a while
  • Fixed bugs 3176, 3304, 3623, 3736
• Reworked Block.post() to return result from handler
  • This is helping out the CPIA Script folks now
  • Needs some rework because results can conflict with bubble-up termination code
  • Discussing with John how to best reconcile these issues
• Reworked the eventsForNamedDispatch --> eventsForNamedLookup to avoid confusion with event dispatching
• Infrastructure work
  • Started the process of doing a full build, so I can debug C++ widgets issues
  • Upgraded my linux box for Wing